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Saturday, September 24th, 2016
11:02 am
Paul wept. Apostle to the world, he came
To Mantua and wept on Virgil's grave
A man he wished to, years too late to, save,
Longed for a saviour child, knew not his name.

'We have no hope, our comfort is desire.'
The poet spoke to poet. Limbo state
Eternity yet ticking off each date
Who know not bliss but have been saved the fire.

Dante knew Virgil. Loved. But with regret
Faith told him it was somehow not unfair
Pagans be damned yet have no pain or care.
We ditch all these concerns. And Pascal's bet.

Still care for all the wrongness of the dead
Compassion, doubt, both whisper in my head.
Thursday, September 22nd, 2016
11:50 am
Some thoughts on my suspension
As people know, I received my ballot in the Labour Party leadership election and voted rather late, on the 14th, after a series of complaints, in the course of which I was told that a large batch had been meant to go out on 24th August and that there had been a glitch. On the 17th, I received a letter dated the 16th which said that I had been suspended from the Labour Party, and my vote disallowed, on the basis of abuse contrary to the rules which I had committed on 6th May and 3rd December as well as on other dates. Thanks to the kind offices of Jane Carnall, I have looked at my political tweets for those days and am mystified as to how I have committed abuse within the meaning of the rule book ie sexism and racism, and foul language.

On the 6th of May I said ‘Imagine what Labour's results in England would have been without constant plots and bitching’. On the 3rd December I was primarily involved in defending the freedom of speech of Labour Party members in the aftermath of the Syria vote, sometimes in direct dialogue with Tom Watson and Andy Burnham. The only conceivably relevant tweets are these : ‘ Earlier I referred to Hilary Benn as a lickspittle running dog of colonialism ad imperialism. I did not, of course, intend to hurt his feels ‘ and ‘ I don't especially want to swear at MPs. I will fight for the right to swear at MPs because I wish to retain the right to use biting sarcasm ‘. A few days earlier I had said that the right to say ‘fuck off’ to Tom Watson was an important right and in reference to his vote and how disgusting I thought it, I told him that he could get me expelled if he didn’t like it. And that’s it – a discussion of the role ot swearing and other forms of strong language in political discourse as a vent for strong views about mass murder as policy.

I don’t swear on line regularly myself – you are more likely to find the word ‘fuck’ in my poems than in my tweets. In any case, the occasion on which Jess Phillips publicly told Diane Abbott to fuck off and boasted of having done so is pretty clear evidence that those particular words are not a disciplinary offence in the Labour Party, so foul language has to be very foul to qualify as abuse.

I didn't use the words 'fuck off' on 3rd December but my dialogue with Tom Watson would have linked to the tweet a few days earlier in which I did talk of 'the right to say fuck off to Tom Watson', which is not abuse, but a discussion of the right of free speech and its limits. That would be enough for a bot to pick up.

‘Lickspittle running dog’ is Maoist phraseology rather than foul language and is any case something I would never use entirely seriously – it’s what I said about Hilary Benn when very angry but even then it is hard to see how, though rude, it contravenes the rules. More generally, if in the heat of the moment I were to use language that could be construed as racist or sexist, which is highly unlikely, my friends would point this out to me.

I am deeply offended at my suspension and the claim that I have done something wrong. I have, however, a theory as to how it happened, a very worrying theory.

It’s hard to see how even with a lot of volunteers and staff working full time on it, the Labour Party could have managed to suspend so many people in so short a time – a record number in Labour history, I would guess, even given the rise of social media – without automating the process with bots and algorithms.

I think I have been suspended for the word ‘bitching’ which is not racist or sexist but which contains the word ‘bitch’ which is sexist. A really useless bot would pick it up and not notice the letters round it. I think furthermore that this is a plausible explanation of why so many people who have been suspended cannot imagine what they have been suspended for – no-one is doing proper quality control on bots which are primed to search for a variety of words, and do not notice when those words are syllables in larger words or if they are being used ironically, in quotation marks and in very specific contexts.

Iain McNicols is a very intelligent man and must be aware that this is happening, and I am forced to conclude that he knows and does not care. Another strong indicator as to his motives is that he has chosen to interpret the rules as meaning that anyone accused of abuse should be suspended without further ado and any investigation of the accusation deferred until after the leadership election and the conference. That decision is clearly motivated by bias – it is also the jurisprudence of the Queen of Hearts - ‘Verdict First, Trial Afterwards’ rather than anything which belongs in a democratic organization. It is a disgrace that the ‘Corbyn’s supporters are vile abusers’ narrative has become so prevalent that liberal commentators are not outraged by this, even without it’s being proved that the accusations are not personal denunciations but based on algorithms and bots.

It’s rather worrying that the pattern of late receipt of votes, endless complaints, arrival of votes, instant suspension of membership for alleged abuse, is not limited to me but appears to be widespread.

It is also hard to see how so many people are going to get due process on the investigation and appeals procedure this side of the next General election.

It is also rather worrying that the form letter that comes out informing people of suspension tells us that we have been denounced. This creates a poisonous atmosphere both locally and, in the case of those of us who are public figures for various reasons, professionally – if in fact the denunciation has come from a piece of code rather than a person, that is particularly irresponsible of the Compliance Unit.

Further, the use of bots to decide guilt or innocence is a worrying precedent. Imagine what a totalitarian government could do with it – imagine what a government department like the DWP may be doing with it as we speak.

Cardinal Richelieu said that seven honest words were enough to find some basis to hang a man. Iain McNicol has surpassed him.
Saturday, September 17th, 2016
9:07 pm
I have been suspended from the Labour Party...
These are my tweets from the day on which I allegedly committed abuse.




Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

There is NO WAY to abolish online anonymity that does not put a lot of vulnerable people in danger of life and sanity.
11 retweets 12 likes

Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Earlier I referred to Hilary Benn as a lickspittle running dog of colonialism ad imperialism. I did not, of course, intend to hurt his feels
5 retweets 8 likes
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Syrians are dying and we're discussing whether Alex Salmond made a remark that was tasteless.
4 retweets 7 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

The Mirror are running a poll for Benn as Labour Leader. So far 91% against. Let's make it 99%.
6 retweets 3 likes
In reply to Lee Weissman
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@JihadiJew But most people with religion and/or MH issues don't shoot people. That would be people with guns.
0 retweets 0 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

I don't especially want to swear at MPs. I will fight for the right to swear at MPs because I wish to retain the right to use biting sarcasm
0 retweets 3 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted Sabine

I use my own name precisely because I have some minor privilege to withstand it. A public voice and friends.

Roz Kaveney added,
Sabine @ThatSabineGirl
@revmagdalen @RozKaveney Harassment and abuse happens under people's real names too, on places like Facebook.
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted Dorothy Snarker

Oh FMS this is awesome.

Roz Kaveney added,
Dorothy Snarker @dorothysnarker
Lena Headey in a suit. This is not a drill. #lesbianbatsignal http://dorothysurrenders.blogspot.com/2015/12/gender-fuck-thursday-lena-headey-edition.html?m=0
2 retweets 2 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

To quote a figure I mostly destest - I will fight fight and fight again to save the party I somehow still manage to love.
0 retweets 2 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

I am now back to stay - somewhat to the Left of where I used to be. You can pry my Labour membership only from my cold dead fingers now.
0 retweets 4 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

I resigned from the Labour party over Gulf Part one, the abolition of Clause 4 and Ed Milliband's capitulation to a centrist narrative.
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@andyburnham Social media are playing field where the vulnerable and abused have some chance of hitting back.
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Online anonymity - and I speak as someone often harrassed - is more important than the hurt feelings of MPs.
11 retweets 10 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Online anonymity helps people blowing whistles in tyrannies; it helps battered wives; it helps LGBT teens with bigoted parents.
13 retweets 13 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@andyburnhammp Friends who have been subjected to staggering vileness on Twitter, simply hand their account to friends for a few days to run
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@andyburnhammp As someone who gets a lot of abuse on Twitter, I use the block and mute buttons regularly. Hence my vast calm.
0 retweets 1 like
In reply to Zoe-Marie Rogers
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@ZoeMarieRogers @andyburnhammp MPs use language like scrounger in speeches which people find staggeringly offensive - will that be policed?
0 retweets 0 likes
In reply to Zoe-Marie Rogers
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@ZoeMarieRogers @andyburnhammp I have been told that I on occasion make people wish they were dead by being icily polite to them.
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Momentum should not be all about personal attacks on individuals. As an individual I outsource my personal attacks to nobody else.
1 retweet 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@andyburnhammp wants a code of conduct for social media. Perhaps he thinks we should all dress up in a school uniform before we tweet.
6 retweets 6 likes
In reply to Alex Gabriel
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@AlexGabriel It kept the narrative on the issue of bombing Syria not his leadership.
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Polly Toynbee believes Labour should vote for war to be serious.That's pretty much journalists demanding blood sacrifice as sign of respect
5 retweets 6 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

How much do MPS know and not say about each other's crimes? Maybe they need to be honest.
0 retweets 1 like
In reply to Tom Holland
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@holland_tom @tom_watson It depends where you live. Churchill's name is mud in Wales and India. And Iraq.
3 retweets 1 like
In reply to Tom Holland
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@holland_tom @tom_watson Politicians are remembered for the worst thing they did, not the best.
1 retweet 1 like
In reply to Tom Watson ☀️
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@tom_watson You will recall that Byron wrote a poem about urinating on Castlereagh's grave. Poets are not nice.
0 retweets 4 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@tom_watson And if you don't like it you can expel me. You were wrong to vote for bombing.
0 retweets 4 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted Jeremy Corbyn MP

And you were the conscience of the country.

Roz Kaveney added,
Jeremy Corbyn MP @jeremycorbyn
In 7 days 5 million Brits change their minds on Syrian airstrikes. Concerned citizens or terrorist sympathisers?
2 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Noisy campaigns for deslection will be represented as vindictive bullying rather than democratic accountability. Don't talk about it. Do it.
8 retweets 9 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

I would suggest to Left Unity that, if deselection is an option, it should not be loud.
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Cameron did not need Labour votes. He solicited them in order to foment civil war in Labour and the pro-war faction rushed to comply.
13 retweets 6 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

I am so relieved that my MP did not vote for bombing.
1 retweet 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

My poem for the 67 Labour MPs http://rozk.livejournal.com/532674.html I am too sick at heart to write well, and yet sometimes you have to write something.
1 retweet 3 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

This time I am not resigning from the Labour Party. I am staying to fight these war-mongers/
8 retweets 20 likes
In reply to Jane
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

@janeyotweets @UKLabour We knew a lot of the Blairite dead wood were still there. Now we know how much worse they are.
0 retweets 1 like
In reply to Patrick Strudwick
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

@PatrickStrud We have always been in for attacks whichever way it went, I fear.
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted David Davis MP

I don't usually retweet Tories bvut everything he says is right.

Roz Kaveney added,
David Davis MP @DavidDavisMP
(1/5) The arguments of those saying 'doing something in #Syria is better than nothing' are false. Nobody is arguing for doing nothing
5 retweets 10 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted Mark Steel

I hope they all see dead children in their dreams.

Roz Kaveney added,
Mark Steel @mrmarksteel
To be fair, MPs who voted for bombing assured us they 'didn't take the decision lightly'. None of them said 'I don't care so rolled a dice'.
5 retweets 5 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted

No maybe about it. https://twitter.com/juliahobsbawm/status/672182742180888578

Roz Kaveney added,
This Tweet is unavailable.
0 retweets 2 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Dear Hilary Benn, if the Spectator is praising your oratory, you can be absolutely sure that you have done a really wrong thing.
39 retweets 41 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted BBC Parliament

That we care as much about brown Syrian children as we do about white black and brown British ones.

Roz Kaveney added,
BBC Parliament @BBCParliament
On Paris attacks @hilarybennmp "they could have been our children... if we do not act what message will that send?"
18 retweets 7 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted Anya

I won't even consider his issues.

Roz Kaveney added,
Anya @fancie18
@RozKaveney @sarahluv81 he should remember his Father's stand on Iraq
0 retweets 0 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted Steve Battlemuch

To screw Corbyn for humiliating her leadership bid presumably.

Roz Kaveney added,
Steve Battlemuch @Battlemuch4WW
Strange speech from @YvetteCooperMP - going to vote for bombing but states Cameron's strategy is wrong. Why then vote for it?
11 retweets 9 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted Bonnie Greer

Maybe he believes what he said. Maybe.

Roz Kaveney added,
Bonnie Greer @Bonn1eGreer
#HilaryBenn made a very good and strong speech- in favour of the wrong policy.
This day is sad beyond measure.
#SyriaDebate…
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Yes Hilary Benn. Fight Daesh Fascism with the Saudis, Al Qaeda, Erdogan and Putin as your allies.
5 retweets 6 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Hilary Benn compares bombing Syria to the International Brigades. Their actual equivalent is the Kurdish woman jailed for trying to fight.
4 retweets 5 likes
In reply to artsyhonker/Kathryn
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

@artsyhonker You're right. He hasn't endorsed bombing without other actions but hasn't explicitly said that w/o them it ceases to be just.
0 retweets 0 likes
In reply to artsyhonker/Kathryn
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

@artsyhonker I find his position equivocal. One of the requirements of Just War is that you have a clear and achievable objective.
0 retweets 1 like
In reply to artsyhonker/Kathryn
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

@artsyhonker @JustinWelby Cameron won't do ANY of those other things in practice especially not the refugee stuff.
0 retweets 0 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

I won't say anything about the LibDem decision to vote for bombing if friends don't talk about Labour bombers. We all have crosses to bear
0 retweets 3 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

The crucial way to counter Daesh/ISIL is to be generous with refugees.
5 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

This is clearl relevant to stopping them.
0 retweets 0 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

@NickCohen4 I don't want to abuse or harass MPs who vote for bombing Syria - is there an etiquette manual that indicates how rude I may be?
0 retweets 0 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

If Putin goes on revealing this much dirt on Erdogan https://www.rt.com/news/324252-russian-military-news-briefing/#.Vl75p6ErV04.twitter … presumably Erdogan will repay in kind.Popcorn time.
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

The UN has not authorized bombing - the UN has authorised 'concerted action' which might mean sending Daesh a joint Christmas card.
0 retweets 2 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

An amplification MORE JARVIS BOLLOCKS
0 retweets 0 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

So the US is putting more boots on the ground in Syria and Iraq? Will Cameron come back next week asking to do the same?
0 retweets 0 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

If the British public has changed its mind about bombing Syria in a week, isn't that evidence that Corbyn is rather a good communicator?
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted Another Angry Woman

Crybabies.

Roz Kaveney added,
Another Angry Woman @stavvers
hello i am a mp plx do not contact me or hold me accountable in any way or protest my murderous decisions bc thats abuse waaaaaa
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Why I think Dan Jarvis is wrong
2 retweets 0 likes
In reply to Mike Scott
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

@DrPlokta Which is why it is important to put pressure on Labour MPs right down to the wire.
0 retweets 0 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Prediction of a clear majority for Cameron in news bulletins. Is that actually the case?
0 retweets 0 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

No mention of the scepticism of the Tory dominated Foreign Affairs committee.
1 retweet 0 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Worrying extent to which the Today programme is presenting the Government case for bombing uncritically.
3 retweets 0 likes
9:05 pm
I have been suspended from the Labour Party...
And my vote in the election of the leader has been disallowed. The allegation is that one of my tweets on 6th May and another on the 3rd December is abusive...There are two tweets on May 6th - one saying that Labour would be doing better in polls without bitching and plotting and the other accusing the Tories of election expense fraud.

These are my tweets for December 2nd and 3rd - robust language to be sure, but abuse?

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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

There is NO WAY to abolish online anonymity that does not put a lot of vulnerable people in danger of life and sanity.
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Earlier I referred to Hilary Benn as a lickspittle running dog of colonialism ad imperialism. I did not, of course, intend to hurt his feels
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Syrians are dying and we're discussing whether Alex Salmond made a remark that was tasteless.
4 retweets 7 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

The Mirror are running a poll for Benn as Labour Leader. So far 91% against. Let's make it 99%.
6 retweets 3 likes
In reply to Lee Weissman
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@JihadiJew But most people with religion and/or MH issues don't shoot people. That would be people with guns.
0 retweets 0 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

I don't especially want to swear at MPs. I will fight for the right to swear at MPs because I wish to retain the right to use biting sarcasm
0 retweets 3 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted Sabine

I use my own name precisely because I have some minor privilege to withstand it. A public voice and friends.

Roz Kaveney added,
Sabine @ThatSabineGirl
@revmagdalen @RozKaveney Harassment and abuse happens under people's real names too, on places like Facebook.
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted Dorothy Snarker

Oh FMS this is awesome.

Roz Kaveney added,
Dorothy Snarker @dorothysnarker
Lena Headey in a suit. This is not a drill. #lesbianbatsignal http://dorothysurrenders.blogspot.com/2015/12/gender-fuck-thursday-lena-headey-edition.html?m=0
2 retweets 2 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

To quote a figure I mostly destest - I will fight fight and fight again to save the party I somehow still manage to love.
0 retweets 2 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

I am now back to stay - somewhat to the Left of where I used to be. You can pry my Labour membership only from my cold dead fingers now.
0 retweets 4 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

I resigned from the Labour party over Gulf Part one, the abolition of Clause 4 and Ed Milliband's capitulation to a centrist narrative.
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@andyburnham Social media are playing field where the vulnerable and abused have some chance of hitting back.
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Online anonymity - and I speak as someone often harrassed - is more important than the hurt feelings of MPs.
11 retweets 10 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Online anonymity helps people blowing whistles in tyrannies; it helps battered wives; it helps LGBT teens with bigoted parents.
13 retweets 13 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@andyburnhammp Friends who have been subjected to staggering vileness on Twitter, simply hand their account to friends for a few days to run
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@andyburnhammp As someone who gets a lot of abuse on Twitter, I use the block and mute buttons regularly. Hence my vast calm.
0 retweets 1 like
In reply to Zoe-Marie Rogers
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@ZoeMarieRogers @andyburnhammp MPs use language like scrounger in speeches which people find staggeringly offensive - will that be policed?
0 retweets 0 likes
In reply to Zoe-Marie Rogers
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@ZoeMarieRogers @andyburnhammp I have been told that I on occasion make people wish they were dead by being icily polite to them.
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Momentum should not be all about personal attacks on individuals. As an individual I outsource my personal attacks to nobody else.
1 retweet 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@andyburnhammp wants a code of conduct for social media. Perhaps he thinks we should all dress up in a school uniform before we tweet.
6 retweets 6 likes
In reply to Alex Gabriel
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@AlexGabriel It kept the narrative on the issue of bombing Syria not his leadership.
0 retweets 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Polly Toynbee believes Labour should vote for war to be serious.That's pretty much journalists demanding blood sacrifice as sign of respect
5 retweets 6 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

How much do MPS know and not say about each other's crimes? Maybe they need to be honest.
0 retweets 1 like
In reply to Tom Holland
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@holland_tom @tom_watson It depends where you live. Churchill's name is mud in Wales and India. And Iraq.
3 retweets 1 like
In reply to Tom Holland
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@holland_tom @tom_watson Politicians are remembered for the worst thing they did, not the best.
1 retweet 1 like
In reply to Tom Watson ☀️
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@tom_watson You will recall that Byron wrote a poem about urinating on Castlereagh's grave. Poets are not nice.
0 retweets 4 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

@tom_watson And if you don't like it you can expel me. You were wrong to vote for bombing.
0 retweets 4 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted Jeremy Corbyn MP

And you were the conscience of the country.

Roz Kaveney added,
Jeremy Corbyn MP @jeremycorbyn
In 7 days 5 million Brits change their minds on Syrian airstrikes. Concerned citizens or terrorist sympathisers?
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Noisy campaigns for deslection will be represented as vindictive bullying rather than democratic accountability. Don't talk about it. Do it.
8 retweets 9 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

I would suggest to Left Unity that, if deselection is an option, it should not be loud.
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 3 Dec 2015

Cameron did not need Labour votes. He solicited them in order to foment civil war in Labour and the pro-war faction rushed to comply.
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

I am so relieved that my MP did not vote for bombing.
1 retweet 1 like
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

My poem for the 67 Labour MPs http://rozk.livejournal.com/532674.html I am too sick at heart to write well, and yet sometimes you have to write something.
1 retweet 3 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

This time I am not resigning from the Labour Party. I am staying to fight these war-mongers/
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In reply to Jane
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

@janeyotweets @UKLabour We knew a lot of the Blairite dead wood were still there. Now we know how much worse they are.
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In reply to Patrick Strudwick
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

@PatrickStrud We have always been in for attacks whichever way it went, I fear.
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted David Davis MP

I don't usually retweet Tories bvut everything he says is right.

Roz Kaveney added,
David Davis MP @DavidDavisMP
(1/5) The arguments of those saying 'doing something in #Syria is better than nothing' are false. Nobody is arguing for doing nothing
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted Mark Steel

I hope they all see dead children in their dreams.

Roz Kaveney added,
Mark Steel @mrmarksteel
To be fair, MPs who voted for bombing assured us they 'didn't take the decision lightly'. None of them said 'I don't care so rolled a dice'.
5 retweets 5 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted

No maybe about it. https://twitter.com/juliahobsbawm/status/672182742180888578

Roz Kaveney added,
This Tweet is unavailable.
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Dear Hilary Benn, if the Spectator is praising your oratory, you can be absolutely sure that you have done a really wrong thing.
39 retweets 41 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted BBC Parliament

That we care as much about brown Syrian children as we do about white black and brown British ones.

Roz Kaveney added,
BBC Parliament @BBCParliament
On Paris attacks @hilarybennmp "they could have been our children... if we do not act what message will that send?"
18 retweets 7 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted Anya

I won't even consider his issues.

Roz Kaveney added,
Anya @fancie18
@RozKaveney @sarahluv81 he should remember his Father's stand on Iraq
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted Steve Battlemuch

To screw Corbyn for humiliating her leadership bid presumably.

Roz Kaveney added,
Steve Battlemuch @Battlemuch4WW
Strange speech from @YvetteCooperMP - going to vote for bombing but states Cameron's strategy is wrong. Why then vote for it?
11 retweets 9 likes
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted Bonnie Greer

Maybe he believes what he said. Maybe.

Roz Kaveney added,
Bonnie Greer @Bonn1eGreer
#HilaryBenn made a very good and strong speech- in favour of the wrong policy.
This day is sad beyond measure.
#SyriaDebate…
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Yes Hilary Benn. Fight Daesh Fascism with the Saudis, Al Qaeda, Erdogan and Putin as your allies.
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Hilary Benn compares bombing Syria to the International Brigades. Their actual equivalent is the Kurdish woman jailed for trying to fight.
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In reply to artsyhonker/Kathryn
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

@artsyhonker You're right. He hasn't endorsed bombing without other actions but hasn't explicitly said that w/o them it ceases to be just.
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In reply to artsyhonker/Kathryn
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

@artsyhonker I find his position equivocal. One of the requirements of Just War is that you have a clear and achievable objective.
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In reply to artsyhonker/Kathryn
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

@artsyhonker @JustinWelby Cameron won't do ANY of those other things in practice especially not the refugee stuff.
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

I won't say anything about the LibDem decision to vote for bombing if friends don't talk about Labour bombers. We all have crosses to bear
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

The crucial way to counter Daesh/ISIL is to be generous with refugees.
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

This is clearl relevant to stopping them.
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

@NickCohen4 I don't want to abuse or harass MPs who vote for bombing Syria - is there an etiquette manual that indicates how rude I may be?
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

If Putin goes on revealing this much dirt on Erdogan https://www.rt.com/news/324252-russian-military-news-briefing/#.Vl75p6ErV04.twitter … presumably Erdogan will repay in kind.Popcorn time.
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

The UN has not authorized bombing - the UN has authorised 'concerted action' which might mean sending Daesh a joint Christmas card.
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

An amplification MORE JARVIS BOLLOCKS
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

So the US is putting more boots on the ground in Syria and Iraq? Will Cameron come back next week asking to do the same?
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

If the British public has changed its mind about bombing Syria in a week, isn't that evidence that Corbyn is rather a good communicator?
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Roz Kaveney Retweeted Another Angry Woman

Crybabies.

Roz Kaveney added,
Another Angry Woman @stavvers
hello i am a mp plx do not contact me or hold me accountable in any way or protest my murderous decisions bc thats abuse waaaaaa
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Why I think Dan Jarvis is wrong
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In reply to Mike Scott
Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

@DrPlokta Which is why it is important to put pressure on Labour MPs right down to the wire.
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Prediction of a clear majority for Cameron in news bulletins. Is that actually the case?
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

No mention of the scepticism of the Tory dominated Foreign Affairs committee.
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Roz Kaveney ‏@RozKaveney 2 Dec 2015

Worrying extent to which the Today programme is presenting the Government case for bombing uncritically.
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Friday, September 2nd, 2016
4:56 pm
For Louise
FOR LOUISE

We are the thoughts that we can recollect
Persist and pulse the beat of melting clocks
Chase as it disappears bright tail of fox
Strutted as owned the park. Time vulture pecked

Her from herself. Her beauty nail sharp wit
Lasted until it did not when the glass
No more showed her her self. And these things pass
Clouds bubbles memories. I'd like to hit

Time in the face so hard. All summer long
She played the same damn record Tapestry
Weaves mighty real taste of the Earl Gray tea
Poured endlessly. And still the same old song.

She is not here. Was not before her death.
Yet in my mind laugh smile and husky breath.
Monday, August 22nd, 2016
7:06 pm
A poem about a sort of religious person
PATRIARCHS

Old men that hate young women. Cut their joy
With fester knives or stitch them close with thread
Blood pus and dripping piss. In their grey head
Single green thought. All pleasures cloy

When old save this of taking lust away
Itches their aching thigh. World could be white
If noone sweated moan yearned in the night
Only get children. Cook. Kneel. Sew. Clean. Pray.
But never priest it. Grumble in their beard.
Their will is mocked elsewhere where unclothed dance
Twine kiss stroke touch unthinkable romance
Abominations if they are not feared.
Steal goddess' gifts and all that's not nailed down.
Sworn to God's service and the devil's clown.
7:04 pm
What's important about Labour coups
FOR DM

Turn face away look closely at the wall
Grouting or craquelure. And do not hear
Dark plane low overhead. Blowtorches sear
Their bastinadoed feet. They owed it all
Pain. Contumaciously refusing to admit
All that they might have done or said or thought.
Do this free-hearted shamed we think you bought.
Plastic clipped wrists on concrete lie ìn shit.
Denounced suspected mistyped on a list.
Decisions right though wrong they prove us tough.
Atrocities. When one side cries. Enough.
Boy blushed when raped gnawed death hole in his wrist.
Spit on your ashpale face. We'll not forget.
That prize you wanted most you'll never get.
Saturday, August 6th, 2016
11:05 pm
Star
MARILYN

Brass notes in hair and voice rich honey sweet
A steel conviction to the perfect scene
Over and over gold poured onto screen
Into burst hourglass. Those tortured feet

In shoes that thrust her forwards breasts and loin
Carved as the perfect dish and wrapped in foil
Take her and eat it later. She is loyal
To lovers who betray whose love is coin

Turns fairy leaves. Yes yes repeated yes
Caught in the moment love that made her art
Out of deep feeling over over start
Methodical. The pains to curse and bless

And break. Treasure each moment that we've got.
Misfits and Diamonds. And Some Like It Hot
10:27 pm
Too much of the press assumes we are young fools
CORBYNISMO

Our hair is sometimes purple sometimes white.
Blood quickened red as flags with joyful rage
Skeleton horses ride that died of age
We rise again. Submit to that old fight

We lost before. The giants are still there
They told us they were windmills and we heard
Creaking that lulled us years content we purred
Despaired perhaps a little. We still care.

Stories come true again. Nothing to lose
But stories. At our head open neck grey
Scruff beard we knew we'd find our knight one day
If madness it is madness not to choose.

We are Quixote's army. This or bed
That we helped make. In which the world is dead.
9:55 pm
Poem randomly derived from reading the TLS
HOUSMAN'S FRIEND

A man so loved so easily admired
A leopard stroked her ribs against the bars
That furtip might reach fingers: like small stars
Electrostatic brightness. So desired
Thundered across their paddocks wildebeest
Brindled and widehorned buffalo and gnu
Did this for him but not for me or you
You'd think we'd get a soulful gaze at least
From big brown eyes. The tallest male giraffe
Would lick his parting, first lift off his hat
And drop. So loved was Prof John Arthur Platt.
It was recorded in a photograph
Embarrassing? Asked, he admìted, quite.
He only smiled at beasts to be polite.
Saturday, July 30th, 2016
8:52 am
I typed the first line of this as a comment in another context and suddenly...
PROVERBS OF POWER

Do not call up what you cannot put down
Get what you want but not the second thing
No deal is sealed until you wear the ring
Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown

There's no just rule for tiger and for horse
If love or fear's the choice best to be feared
Do not judge wise by colour length of beard
Power's won politely and maintained by force

First time as tragedy, the next as farce
They laugh and then they fight you then you win
Caught in a coverup is worse than sin
The Emperor's new clothes will show his arse

You lose you die your friends end up in jail.
Political careers all end in fail.
Friday, July 29th, 2016
11:59 pm
After the Bowie Prom
COVER VERSION for Amanda

Make it your own once more and make it new
That once was his or hers. Perhaps they're dead.
You hear their voice competing in your head
And love and honour. And you tear down too

That you can recreate. When I translate
Changing the language helps though in a mist
Of not quite yet the word. Funambulist
Trapeze tight walking taking what was great

Real time inventing yours a harder part
Getting what's loved each time both first and right
Performance knife you tread cut feet each night
Both yours and mine not greatest hardest art

Submit our music to another's voice
We sing out proud and humble in this choice.
12:04 am
This is probably all to do with Donald Trump
SHROUD

Fool's mate fool's mort so early in the game
eye's water sting that this is all we get
sand smashes spills from turned time glass. I met
our death upon Samarra road. My name
from under shroud bass spoke and yours as well.
Thought we had years. Polite I offered seat
Thick cloth makes bones perspire in end-time heat
Death labours hard and honest and his smell
More blood and sweat than mausolean dust.
This it? Above our heads the sky was red
with final fire. Suburban privet bled
black sap. High towers fell in gravel rust.
Death took our hands the world what might have been
Our work undone we burned we ate the green.
Thursday, July 28th, 2016
11:03 pm
A picture poem
ISLE OF THE DEAD after Bocklin

Ruins so old that cypresses a grove
have grown. The island was not always there
the water rose around it. Stone scoured bare
of signs and busy windows. Some force stove
and sheared the sides away. A city stood
this is the last. One day it will be gone
under the cloud sea. Somewhere there is sun
but it does not shine here. Dark in the wood
some shrine in which veils serve the last faint god
but hardly worship. Hope's gone. Millions trod
streets hundred feet below. The bad the good
dust sea-dissolved in foam. It's here the last boat rowed
last coffin corpse. We reaped the death we owed.
10:19 pm
A friend was talking about Keats on FB and this just came
FOR JOHN KEATS

By its persistence water carved that name
He thought would be forgotten. Drops as slow
As time when you are dying. When you know
One of the gasping breaths that seem the same

Is different because it is the last
Then you are gone and there is not one word
Left in your mouth. The bedside watcher heard
Silence and your death was in the past.

He thought his work forgotten. He was wrong.
Ironic time has used our loving tears
Refute his epitaph. So many years.
Among the English poets I'll belong

He also said. He went into the night
Not knowing which his hope his fear was right
Monday, July 25th, 2016
12:20 am
A second
Halfcut we stagger. Blood storm in our eyes
hair slick and stinking. Something in our hand
we did not seize. The trumpet snarling of that band
raucous tears ears. Charged each of us denies

we were involved. There is no alibi
clears history. Our race our sex our class
some boy we liked who patted our firm arse
was monster later. Sometime you or I

accused and guilty. Also innocent
process our trial. All of us arraign
each other, point the finger for our pain.
We love we hate but mostly we resent

times we cannot escape because alive
some piece of work we do may yet survive.
Sunday, July 24th, 2016
11:44 pm
Events dear boy. The dead rat in the road
a bomb; the stupid random screw
derails career. Fathers a bastard too
a painter of repute. Nothing is owed

to reason. Fortune giggles turns her wheel
And yet we try we must to work it right
fire waits and after fire dead dusty night.
Sometimes our foe our own excessive zeal

justice that trips our feet. And sometimes sloth
We did not make that meeting. Or were late
Things turned to dirt on that specific date
angry or tired or something maybe both.

And yet we try. It is not through our will
Best comes. We hope we help it somehow still.
Saturday, July 23rd, 2016
12:57 am
Current affairs
A CANDIDATE

Not the barbarians. At riverside
mounted with stirrups they are waiting still
patient and deadly, quite prepared to kill
but not yet bothered. When their leader died

went under grave loot with a slave or two
strangled they wept and shrugged. Perhaps their hearts
no longer in his war. They'd played their parts
later it seemed. Done what he paid them to,

Our Caesar who explained what he would need,
Absolute power to start. And all our cash
He made us slaves. Citizens felt the lash
or cross or cutting knife. Chanted his creed

It did not save us, But he'd save the town
cost us our lives, our freedome and his crown.
Tuesday, July 12th, 2016
1:25 am
Third poem
FOR A STATESWOMAN

The perfect manner of the crocodile
faceted glinting eye that never blinks.
Somewhere behind the stare there's something thinks
old venom malice. Not so much a smile
though teeth are there and blooded. Maybe smirk
self-pleased and praised. And hungers not for blood
but bone crunch and she waddles in the mud
unresting. Values gold and pain and work
and armour wrapped around. In grids and swirls
hard leathered nodules nothing can bites to bleed
A tail that she can bludgeon smash at need.
And round the neck a perfect set of pearlS,
the queen of death she squelches through this bog
we made her queen believing her a log.
1:05 am
Second poem of the night
LAST THINGS

Braid blend her kiss and someone else's breast
you don't remember you were drunk that year
hair snagged on stud your finger twists that ear
another night. The small hairs on his chest
soft silk folds lemon sweat of his kind dick
the scratch of that rich bastard's well-ironed sheet
quick ache contraction that time that you meet
her you were with for years. The smell of sick
you stroked out poison finger in her throat.
Salt char and blood and mustard tanging steak
with fuck under the table that same night
she scratched blood jagged neck during that fight
that one last time was really a mistake.
I love these words. I do. I hope to try
for shrieks and moans remembered as I die.
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