Roz Kaveney (rozk) wrote,
Roz Kaveney

A very quick post before bed

The demonstration against Stonewall was pretty amazing - 150 trans people and supporters to about 10 pro-Bindel people. Several people going in came over and made it clear that they were apologetic about ignoring our picket - Sue Perkins for example.

Paul Cavadino of the National Association for the Care and Resettlement of Offenders was there and came and chatted - NACRO have a long record of being trans-inclusive and have, obviously, to do business with Stonewall, but he was rueful about the fact. Paul BTW radicalized me when we were both 16 or 17 - he laughed like a drain when I showed him the song sheet because he remembers when Dave Mumford taught us both to sing 'Harry was a Bolshie' in about 1966 or 1967. I think he is vaguely impressed that in my sixtieth year I am still starting chants on picket lines...

One of the Stonewall officers had to be told by the police that she could not stop the couple of demonstrators licensed to hand out leaflets from doing so; the same woman said, apparently, that they will never negotiate with us because, allegedly, Stonewall workers have had death threats from the trans community.

Now, obviously we all totally condemn such threats. And it is surprising that Stonewall think collective punishment OK. What is interesting is how Stonewall can tell that - presumably anonymous - phone calls came from actual trans people as opposed to someone claiming to be trans. Now, there are two groups involved in all of this - us and Julie Bindel's 'radical feminist' supporters - now, which of these two groups is historically associated with death threats?

There is one, and only one, instance of a trans woman threatening people over her rights, which is an incident that happened during Toiletgate, of which more soon, I fear. 'Radfems' have been threatening the lives of transfolk since the business with Sandy Stone at Olivia; more recently, they threatened a trans woman and a gender queer guy during the Reclaim the Night march in Ipswich over the killings there. Would they try to discredit the trans protestors by making fake death threats in our name? You might think so, but I could not possibly comment.

I will link to photos and video when they are up - I did an interview which will probably be posted to Youtube.

Incidentally, I really do think that the Stonewall and PFC people see me and my small group of friends as a cabal making a power play rather than a group of friends who find ourselves acting as spokespeople for a grass roots movement and who are not in a position to make deals on behalf of that movement. We can't do the back rooms because we don't have the right or the power.

Tired and happy and waiting for the next step.

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